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Our marriage is old enough to buy its own lottery tickets and sign up for the Selective Service.

OMG. How did we get here so fast? LOL!

photoAs all educators know, any holiday or celebration that arrives in May has to get in line behind all the end of school activities and the craziness that is the May schedule. So we’re used to “flexible” anniversary celebration dates. (Ditto my birthday.)

And once you’ve been married for a few, you can relax a little and calm down about making the celebration A Big Deal. I just want to enjoy some time with my man, because I love him and he’s still awesome. In fact, I’d say he’s awesome-er than when we first met.

So with that in mind, we’ve been looking for 18 things to do that represent Rameylife … ¬†Keep tuning in to see the whole set. ūüôā

#1 Good food in Upstate SC, in this case, the Tandem Creperie in Traveler’s Rest. We’ve been exploring culinary goodness together for a long time now….

#2 A really great latte. So many of our dates involve coffee!

#3 Walking around the lake at Furman – we used to do this as undergrads and grad students living nearby. It was a lovely place to “get away.”

#4 Seeing an action/thriller movie together. If you know us, you know we aren’t the “romantic comedy” type. ¬†This film was really well written and quite intense. And Patrick Stewart played the villain!¬†



#5 Coart’s grilled cheese sandwiches will save the world, I promise.

#6 Had lunch last week at one of our favorite Greenville spots, Takosushi. I’ve always loved their bottle cap fish wall art. ¬†I’m a sucker for metalworking. (OK, that’s a stretch for something made from beer bottles and cans, but it’s still a cool piece!)

#7 A B&N date! This is the original “cheap date night” in our relationship. Long before we were married, we had the habit of heading to the B&N on Haywood Rd to curl up with a book and coffee. I think Coart read all of Harry Potter #3 at that B&N. lol¬†


#8. Dinner with friends.¬†Hard to choose just¬†one photo for this because I could list so, so many moment in our lives with friends we care about. ¬†This shot evokes memories of hundreds of evenings spent on patios, porches, lawns, dinner tables, and cities across the world with friends we love. ¬†#friends ‚̧

from a recent gathering to say farewell to a friend; photo by Fisher.
from a recent gathering to say farewell to a friend; photo by Fisher.


#9 Coart’s cookies. If you’ve ever had them, you understand.

Stay tuned for more. ¬†ūüôā

10. Mars. ¬†If you have known us for a long time, you know why that’s funny. And this week, Mars is closer to earth than it will be for another 80 years. ¬†NASA has some cool pics. ¬†Very pretty. Still not planning to move there. ūüėČ

11. Small town exploration. ¬†It’s the best. Especially in Abbeville, SC, which has some of the best eats in the whole state. Really. I’m not kidding. Hit up The Village Grill. Some of the best food you’ll find anywhere.

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12. UGA. This is probably weird for an anniversary montage, but I think the school that’s taken 5 years of my husband’s soul (not to mention a whole bunch of dollars) deserves a place on this list. His PhD has certainly been a continual part-time job…

13. Live music. I drag him along to see shows. As long as it’s not too hot, loud, crowded, or smokey, he’s willing to hang in there with me. I appreciate that. ūüôā We saw Snarky Puppy play in Athens last week at the wonderful Georgia Theatre. Totally worth it. As was the meal beforehand, at The Last Resort Grill.

14. Games. We’ve enjoyed getting to know people through board games. Early in our marriage, it was Settlers of Cataan – I think we nearly broke up 4 marriages by teaching our friends to play that game. ūüôā Now it’s mooning off Jesse’s impressive collection of some of the best board games coming out these days. Hard to believe Settlers was practically the first Euro-style game to hit big in America. And that we played it – as the hipsters would say – way before anyone else had heard about it. ¬†(In Germany!)

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To my young friends: why you should consider marriage

Most of the time, unsolicited advice falls on deaf ears. And perhaps it should.

Among the younger set, we adults get a deserved rap for being kind of pushy with our opinions. To be fair, we usually have a lot of good experience to back up our advice, and hopefully we’re sharing because we’re caring, not because were just busybody assholes.

The Great Recession has hit 20-somethings hard. They’re leaving college with a lot of debt, heading into a rough employment market, stuck living at home far longer than they’d hoped, and delaying marriage for plenty of reasons including an honest hard look at their economic options right now.

There’s plenty of pressure today for relationships to stay loose and undefined. Our new ways of communication ‚ÄĒ texting, FaceTime, social media, Tinder ‚ÄĒ redefine what it means to be “connected.” New rules have emerged: like if someone texts you and you don’t immediately respond, you’re either angry/displeased or you’re committing a huge social faux pas. The struggle is real.

Buzzfeed for the win
Buzzfeed for the win

I am so thankful I didn’t grow up in a world where “dating” meant ¬†24/7 social contact. To be “always on,” in constant contact by text or chat. No one should have to live a fishbowl life like that, yet it’s what I see in the lives of Millennials. The pressure to always respond, always reply, always be interested — I’m not much of an introvert, but even I find the idea alone exhausting.

Even when we were engaged, Coart and I were forced by the shape our grad-school lives and the state of 90s technology to make do with the limited time we had to see each other. An hour here or there, maybe studying at the same table in the library. Even the goodnight call was short. We eagerly awaited our wedding day because it would mark the last night we had to say “goodbye” in place of good night.

So I understand why marriage looks less ideal given the easy communication¬†of our¬†connected world, the uncertainties of a young adult’s life, and the bad examples set by the adults in their lives. (The overall divorce rate is 50%, though divorce rates for marriages in the 2000s are much lower so maybe the cautionary tales of the Boomers did some good.)

So given all these realities, it’s no wonder that moving in for a test drive before signing up for a lifetime of matrimony seems like the sensible thing to do.

Amid all these changes, and at risk of offering advice where it is unwanted, I want to make a case for why 20-somethings in a serious relationship should consider marriage over cohabitation.

I hate to be misunderstood, so please note: I’m not crafting a moral club to beat people with here; I’m trying to start a conversation. I think marriage has advantages that aren’t as easy to see from the outside.

That, and I’ve been married for 17 years, so I’d like to think I have a worthwhile¬†perspective on what’s good about it.

1. It’s an institution that pictures community.¬†
Marriage is more public than cohabitation, and that has some consequences. Even if you head to the JP to get hitched, your marriage will be witnessed by at least one other human being. And most married couples stick with the traditional path of a public ceremony, which means something to the community you’re in.

I have a friend who instead of saying “I was a bridesmaid” says “stood up in their wedding” when referring to participating in a friend’s ceremony. I like that. I think it communicates much more clearly what’s actually happening when we are involved in the wedding of a friend (though no one ever seems to bring this up): ¬†when I “stand up with” you up there, I’m offering my public commitment to support you in your commitment to a lifetime partnership.

Cohabitation offers little opportunity for people to step forward and say, “I’m with you.” Sure, you can have a tool shower or housewarming party, but it’s not the same. I realize that attending your wedding may not mean much either for my perseverance in caring about you and your marriage, but at least I’m going to be challenged to think about it.

In fact, I think one of the greatest downsides to “let’s just move in together” is that it robs the rest of us (your friends) of the chance to celebrate your partnership with a raucous wedding reception and terrible dancing three drinks in.

2. The psychological shift (in your own mind) that comes from making a public commitment to a “permament” partnership is worth it.¬†

Marriage is a unique relationship. It’s more than being sexual partners. It’s more than being best friends. ¬†It’s not just a different flavor of “roommate.” It’s deeper than a financial partnership.

Marriage is for keeps.

When you take the steps necessary to incarnate¬†your love for one another in a ceremony and legal document, you’re offered the chance to make this vow: I love you unconditionally. (That’s what the “for richer for poorer, in sickness and in health, for better and for worse” part of the traditional vows is getting at.)

Marriage is hard, not because it’s “marriage” per se but because deciding every day that I’m going to love my husband more than I did yesterday requires that I sacrifice some of myself for his benefit. It’s a daily challenge, not because he’s a trouble to live with (he’s not) but because I’m a self-centered, difficult human being and he’s in my space.

Knowing that I signed up for a lifetime of this, and that I promised I wouldn’t quit¬†when I stop feeling like I love him is foundational to¬†the deal. That’s what unconditional love means. It’s not unconditional until you run into something in the other person that erodes your chipper can-do attitude about how much you love him/her.

Cohabitation can develop really deep feelings of loyalty and partnership, and I do find great merit in “common law” recognition of¬†long-held partnerships as marriages. (Because I think they are, by that point.) But when you’re young,¬†just living together means you’re heading into some very difficult storms without much of an anchor. In fact….

3. Your support network can’t take you seriously if you¬†aren’t clearly “seriously committed.”¬†

A solid relationship that lasts will be a relationship grounded in a support network. That network has already been partially built by the time you get together, but it’s going to need more people to be effective across the length of your lifetime. ¬†Life is never about just¬†you. Lone wolves (and couples) get eaten in this world.

It’s not that cohabitation strips you of your support network. Not at all. ¬†But I do think, lacking the confirmation of a marriage ‚ÄĒthat you’re serious about making this work‚ÄĒ many of us more experienced married couples (who ought to be mentoring you) are less likely to fight for the survival of your relationship when you come to us weeping and¬†angry and ready to throw in the towel.

Note that I said when, not if.

Truth is, cohabitation looks like “try before you buy.” And who am I to tell you to make the commitment if you aren’t sure yourself?

But once it’s made, once you’ve stated “before God and these witnesses” that you want to make a go of it for keeps, I’ve got better footing to encourage you to make it work and walk with¬†you through the hard parts.¬†(I’m assuming that we aren’t talking about domestic abuse or anything similarly destructive. That is a totally different conversation.)

Your relationship will face deep, difficult problems, because you are a broken, difficult person. Whether those problems wreck your relationship has much to do with how serious you are about making it through together and how much help you get from the people around you.

4. Living like you’re married without the commitment of marriage¬†can load¬†you down with emotional baggage and heavier expectations than you’re ready for.¬†

The pressure of a joint household apart from a commitment to a united life can be suffocating. ¬†You still have to make all the same decisions of a married couple ‚ÄĒ whether you’ll keep your dishes or his, whether you’ll live near her¬†workplace or yours, how you’re going to prioritize your spending to achieve mutual goals ‚ÄĒ and all of those decisions take time and thought and commitment to your needs as a couple.

And since¬†you’re sleeping together, you’re also cementing a physical intimacy that generates¬†deep emotional intimacy and vulnerability, but without affirming that should you “slip up” and create a life, you’ve thought through the ramifications of child-bearing, rearing (or aborting – not a choice I support, but among your¬†options).

You’re binding together your lives, finances, career trajectories, health care options, vacation plans, budgets, student debt, and friend circles.

Undoing all of these connections now that you’ve melted things together will tear you into much worse pieces should the unthinkable happen and this partnership blow apart.

So why aren’t you getting married?

There are lots of great reasons not to get married: you’re too immature or emotionally unready, you’re undecided about this partner, you can’t afford to support yourself yet, your job or grad schoolwork takes away all the time you would need to foster a healthy relationship… to name a few.

But those reasons, if they are true of you, should equally warn you against creating all of the financial, physical, practical, and emotional bonds of a marriage apart from the actual commitment of a life together. In other words, get side-by-side apartments if you must. But you’re not ready to live together either.


Hey, it’s my view. It doesn’t have to be your view, and if you disagree with me, we are still friends. I won’t make it awkward, I promise. Everyone is always welcome at my table.

But I figured it was worth taking the time to explain what I think and why. ¬†And I’d love to hear your thoughts – drop me a comment.

LINK: Pulling Together: Marriage, Ministry, and Calling – Sometimes a Light

Good post from Hannah about a better way to see marriage, calling, Kingdom work, and the balance among them.

Of all the neighbors you are called to love, your spouse is the closest one. This means that being married will naturally limit your ability to pursue other callings in the Church. But Scripture also makes it clear that the call to marry is rooted in a larger call so that even as we enter it, we remember that marriage itself is not all-consuming. It is only part of how we serve the Lord with our whole hearts and lives. This is true for men. This is true for women.

via Pulling Together: Marriage, Ministry, and Calling – Sometimes a Light.

Acceptance: A Gospel Posture toward Gay Christians

I really hate to be misunderstood, so do read all the words in this post before you start commenting. ūüôā

51JbkfA4lqL._SY344_BO1,204,203,200_I recently finished reading Ken Wilson’s¬†short book A Letter to My Congregation, in which he explains (to his congregation with the rest of us listening in) his decision to accept LGBT+ Christians into the membership of his Vineyard church.

This comes¬†in the midst of the raging debate¬†about gay marriage, the Church’s response to homosexuality, and the American culture war. In short, it’s not really a safe time or place to be talking about any of these issues. Not if by “safe” you mean “not being shot at, yelled at, skewered, misunderstood, or shouted down.”

By both sides. It’s rough out there, folks.

Ken is one of a few Evangelical voices growing in prominence in this conversation. I use “conversation” loosely since most of what I see passing for “dialogue” on these issues barely qualifies as civil discourse. ¬†So after reading the message from the elders of CityChurch (San Francisco) to their congregants about a similar shift, I wanted to read more.

See, most of the argumentative support¬†regarding the Church’s posture toward LGBT+ folks has come from those outside Evangelicalism. And that creates problems for those of us who actually want to live under the authority of the Bible as the Word of God, viewing it as inspired and relevant for life.

When the only arguments you offer¬†are built on tearing down the Bible itself as irrelevant, out of date, culturally aberrant, merely human, twisted mythology, or whatever, you’re going to alienate Evangelical believers.

Maybe I’m an idiot for adhering to my conservative roots in this regard, but here I am, and I’m not going to change what I believe to make someone else happy. I believe the Holy Spirit works with us as the Helper, the one who opens our eyes to truth. So I’ve been praying for wisdom and truth within the community of faith, within valid exegetical frameworks, for the deep questions surrounding our posture toward gays, lesbians, trans+ and others who cross our paths.

As I see it, we now have the following split among Christians when it comes to the Church’s response to these questions:

I got scratchpad skilz, yo.
I got scratchpad skilz, yo.

The YES crowd is currently primarily located among Christianity’s mainline denominations and more liberal wings…. Oh, and Millennials. The solidly-Yes position in Christianity tends to align with people who don’t hold as tightly to Scriptural authority. It’s not across the board, but it’s a generalization that works.

Plenty of people vocally oppose gay marriage, gay relationships, and gay rights. Among Christians, the NO crowd exists as a huge variety – and this is important. It’s way too easy for people to assume that the NO crowd are bigoted or discriminators. Often this is simply not true.

The problem is – and here is where Ken Wilson’s book really shines – the NO position leaves us all in a deep pickle.

Wilson argues that pastors, not academics, work on the front lines of theology. They rarely have time to learn the ins and outs of every Greek word related to sexual behavior in the New Testament, but they do spend a lot of hours each week working with people living in the middle of problems, failure, sin, suffering.

In his pastoral journey, Ken noticed – like the elders of CityChurch did – that our narrative of “love the sinner, hate the sin” isn’t working. It’s breaking people.

Likewise, trying to label¬†same-sex attraction as a temptation (therefore, “not sinful,” though clearly bad / broken / non-normative) while encouraging that person to live a celibate life if he/she cannot pursue monogamous, married, heterosexual sex is also hurting people.

Few of us truly¬†accept the idea that God would create something good (marriage) and then create people to want something entirely different (non-hetero attraction), thus requiring them to forever foreswear that good thing and try to live without it (celibacy). Within Protestantism, this is a very tough sell. And within the science and psychology communities, the evidence is mounting that non-hetero sexual orientation is biological rather than “a choice.”

And then there’s the reality: There are thousands of Christians who identify as LGBT+. They aren’t the rebellious God-haters of Romans 1. They aren’t the inhospitable gang-rapers of Sodom. They are just normal people who, for as long as they can remember, have been attracted to the same sex. And whether that’s a sin or not, these people are our brothers and sisters. And they want healthy relationships grounded in biblical love.

That central category in my drawing above Рthe MAYBES Рare those of us caught between our consciences (and an unwillingness to jettison biblical authority) and our duty to love others. 

Hello, everyone. I’m a MAYBE. Are you?

3d-bookEvangelicals are struggling to find scriptural foundation for anything beyond heterosexual marriage and sex. There is some new work in the field – I heard Matthew Vines speak a couple weeks ago and I found much of his interpretive evidence to be solid overall. You can listen to the core argument from his book in that talk.

Does Vines present a satisfying exegetical argument that Evangelicals are ready to jump on board with? Honestly – no.

But it’s strong evidence that our interpretation of Scripture is as much influenced by our own cultural context as the sentences in the biblical text were influenced by the authors’. ¬†

And that should at least make us pause long enough to put down the rifles and angry words and clobber passages and consider that we might need a different approach.

In my drawing above, I see the MAYBEs pursuing two paths out of this cognitive dissonance. The first is Matthew Vines’s approach: Look for a valid exegetical framework that can¬†acknowledge monogamous, homosexual relationships within the boundaries of the Christian walk.

Vine’s argument centers on the recognition that the Bible’s discussion of marriage a) varies within itself (i.e.: OT polygamy vs the Greco-Roman culture of the NT) and b) isn’t anything like our modern view of marriage in the West, which is a union between two equals. ¬†Sex-as-conquest, whether inside or outside marriage, isn’t a virtue in our society, while in the ancient world that was one of the primary avenues to power. The rules of the marriage game have significantly changed, Vine argues; therefore, we should be open to the idea that the Bible never explicitly condemns the kind of “gay marriage” being espoused today.

The second is Ken Wilson’s approach, which is to acknowledge the mess in the theological arguments and recognize that it’s going to take some time to get this sorted out…..and that in the meantime, we have scriptural decrees that cover situations like this.

In short, here’s what Wilson says:

  • We must acknowledge that the Church sometimes sets aside what seem to be clear biblical mandates when it’s obvious that we must make allowances for broken people in a broken world. The best contemporary example of this is divorce. The textual data on divorce is so tight that up until a few decades ago, churches disciplined or expelled members who divorced and/or remarried. (That happened to my parents.) ¬†Yet things changed. ¬†Only the most hard-line fundamentalist groups would argue for a 1950s-era view of divorce now. Pastors¬†have recognized that their work in the counseling room isn’t “righteous” if we’re beating people with a Bible-club. ¬†Sometimes we must allow for divorce even outside the “exception clauses.”
  • Romans 14 sets up a pattern for Christians to follow when two sides are dug in and emotionally battling for control of an issue. Paul discusses the “weak” and the “strong” groups as they sparred over whether to eat meat offered to idols or to observe certain days. The language in the passage makes it clear that the weak (i.e.: those who refused to eat the meat because they thought it was sinful) were condemning the strong (i.e.: those who saw no problem with eating) and the strong were belittling the weak. The argument had gotten that bad.
  • In ancient Rome, these groups of believers weren’t arguing over a peripheral issue. Clearly the meat-eating question was a big one for the NT church – Paul takes 3 chapters in Corinthians to sort it out there. People could argue viciously for either side and claim God’s authority. ¬†It’s not like these kinds of arguments are unusual in the history of the Church.
  • Is gay marriage a similar “disputed” question? Wilson argues that it is, and I think (having read his book) that he’s right. Therefore…
  • While we allow the Church and its theologians and pastors time to sort this out, we must follow Romans’ commands to accept one another in the Gospel. ¬†The goal is not to stay in this fog of “disputation.” But while we’re here, we are commanded to stop condemning and belittling.
  • The Gospel does not demand tolerance. It does not demand that we “affirm” someone else’s ideas or life choices. But it does demand that we accept other believers on the basis of the Gospel.

For that reason, Wilson opened his church to gay Christians for membership. He concluded that until the big questions are answered, his duty is to feed his flock. All of the members.

Neither of the options open to the MAYBEs in this debate¬†will satisfy those who want an iron-clad defense of old-fashioned marriage. I think it’s a lot more attractive to Evangelicals to complain about being “persecuted” than to do the very hard work of living a Romans 14 life: loving people who hold vastly different views, and recognizing that although marriage is a key tenet in church doctrine, it is not a matter of separation.

The Gospel can – and will – survive the gay marriage debates.

Whether the church in general destroys much of its credibility in the eyes of Millennials and the outside world while it sorts it out – well, that’s a totally different question.

Work, Moms, Families, ‘Merica, and The Dream

I realized while writing that last post: the rabbit trail I wanted to take would turn that post into a monster. ¬†So here’s a coda of sorts.

America’s work/life balance seems is broken. This is not really a revelation; people have been writing about it, like here¬†(Slate) and here¬†(The Atlantic).

Women who work “outside the home” tell us they suffer tremendous guilt (or suppress the guilt), perhaps because the dominant message in both sacred and secular society is that the successful woman is a Pinterest mother, crafting perfect sandwiches for her offspring from the sanctity of a spotless home. ¬†She runs taxi for all the soccer games and school field trips in a sparkling tan SUV that runs on a hybrid engine (caring for the environment!)

And to the extent that work gets in the way of the Pinterest dream, work is a villain for the working American mom.

We Americans seem unable to find any way for a woman to be both a flourishing human being (a doctor, a pharmacist, a hairdresser) and also be fully a mother without having to blend those into a shadowy compromise, a failure to live up to either set of impossible standards.

Corporate / Working America runs on consumerism Рthe economy must grow! grow! grow! so people must spend! spend! spend! And that demands work! work! work! so we can earn! earn! earn!    I am tired just thinking about it.  So we work to earn to spend so the economy can grow, and that work eats 40-50 hours of our lives because Americans work more than nearly anyone else in the world; we take fewer vacation days; we offer very little in the way of family leave to actually give both men and women breathing room to achieve a balance of life and work.

Research tells us that men are likewise frustrated at the vice-grip of trying to balance work and family. ¬† Working moms get all the press, but the dads can’t even talk about it. ¬†American companies rarely offer paternity or family leave for new fathers, and the struggle for a dad to balance his work life with his children doesn’t get much better¬†from there on — even if his wife is staying home.

Our national view of parenting seems to be¬†broken too, at least for some middle-class families. ¬†It’s possible to smother kids with too much love, to clutch so tightly that it’s not possible to let kids go. ¬†We’ve taken all of the risks out of living (or attempted to), reigning in kids’ freedoms so that no kid ever seems to be alone ever – and certainly never out of line of sight. But kids need freedom¬†to develop creativity, problem-solving, and independence.

Colleges are telling us that “helicopter parents” are worse than ever. Some have appointed “parent bouncers” to force parents to leave their kids behind and get off campus on Move-in Day. ¬†It’s like we Gen-X’rs had such a great time in college that we insist on living our lives again, vicariously, through our children.

One of the most interesting books I read in the last couple years was Bringing Up B√©B√© (Amazon link),¬†written by a woman who moved to Paris with her husband and their toddler. The French women around Druckerman¬†weren’t obsessed with their children. Their homes weren’t child-centric. ¬†The tiny preschools down the street were ready to accept the wee ones around the six to nine month mark, and the mothers returned to being people first, and mothers second. They were far happier, far more fulfilled, far more successful in their marriages, far better parents (as evidenced by the happiness & behavior of their children).

The French mindset of¬†making children part of life rather than the center of life paid big dividends in the parents’ and children’s lives. And their educated, capable men AND women were able to pursue gainful work if they chose.

Agree or disagree with Druckerman, it’s at least worth considering.

And here’s where I’m going to get in trouble: ¬†ūüôā ¬† It would help if the dominant voices in Christianity were not preaching that SAHM’s were the closest to the Kingdom. ¬†Even if it’s not spoken aloud, it’s certainly a deep undercurrent in the religious traditions that have shaped my life — all of them. ¬†Working women are appreciated and supported and occasionally¬†pitied yet the homemaker is the fairest of them all. ¬†Eventually, the argument reaches its natural conclusion – that the women who matter the most to the Kingdom are those who have raised children. ¬†That perspective marginalizes a lot of women. (Rachel Held Evans has an excellent post on why the Church can and should support “breadwinning” wives, one that addresses several of these thoughts better than I have.)

So what took me down this deep rabbit hole of thought?
Just the recognition that we Americans have built our own cage – our working lives and family lives are in conflict because the system ¬†for earning what we need to live (whether that’s a realistic measurement or driven by capitalist greed) is forcing us into decisions that shouldn’t have to be so gut-wrenching, guilt-ridden, and exhausting.